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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 19/01/2010 18:35:06
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darknight
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is it possible, i have been running one that uses about 14, this wins against the computer, but in real games it keeps it head above water but eventually loses.
the problem in mana, as most bioliths are around 4 or 5 mana, it sometimes means missing a turn.
its ok to have scion biolith lord and son of scion and watchtower to generate mana but in reality they wont be on the board long enough to do this.
im using Corsez Oath (292), absolver sacrement, etc, running 2 bombers, biolith guard, but using about 7 woods, and a couple of darkwater sirens, (which are working very well).
but is it possible yo run one and generate mana?
i also used a couple of sacreds sword and hammer, which did work well, and got out from incarnation.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 19/01/2010 19:36:58
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Usually in an all Biolith or Mostly Biolith Deck you will want to flip the biolith fields up. Do that with either a Calamity or Juno's Admonition (310). If you go this path , its also good to have Blinding Skies (107). This way , even if the enemy is ahead of you .. if you have Blinding Skies (107) in ur hands and the fields are flipped , just wait until he has 3-4 creatures down then kill them all. Altho , if you flip the fields and are holding back , most experienced players will expect the Blinding Skies (107). Biolith Imperial Guards is also a good idea for these kinds of decks . Some people will include Phaseus and some Vengeresses / parmetic creatures combo and make this an attrition deck which will piss a lot of opponents off , drag the game on for a long time .. but ultimately effective if you do it right.
I personally would not make an all biolith deck, it is not effective mana wise. You need to include some 1 mana creatures and/or creatures that grant bonus mana and you need to be able to play something while the board is locked.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 19/01/2010 21:19:57
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why is blinding skys so good, if he is lets say 3 ahead, and you had begun to fieldquake, having say 3 fieids, then you would deal 3 damage, not usually enough to kill that much?
with juno admonition, i take it by the wording the creature you have chosen must stay on the field? so you would need to keep it alive or? the fields revert?
would you say its too hard to use watchtower and scion?, i did use phaeseus a bit before and its worth saving the mana for him
i was thinking of rather than go bio green, to do bio blood, (bio and fire) and use deathspeaker to up their hp, with low cost lizards or cop, what do you think to that?
thanks for the input
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 19/01/2010 21:41:28
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You dont fieldquake them 1 by 1 . You use Seer Vizak's Calamity (109) . This way Blinding Skies (107) does 5 damage to anything he has on the board. This with Theraclave Tollgate (293) or any other form of removing his mana like a Parmetic Vengeress (255) on a surviving creature , will really hurt your oponent.
Other fun cards to play in a deck like this are Romili Reloaded (288) and Biolith Sentry (280) .
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 19/01/2010 21:55:16
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A heavy biolith (10+ bioliths) worked very well in set 1 only. The game was slower and you could save mana. It got tricky because there were no cards to return cards from graveyard to library so you could defeat yourself by library defeat if the game was too slow and you could not get to 5 fields before you ran out of cards.
Blinding Skies (107) is an excellent card if used after you use admonition on a biolith creature (the fields do not flip back after the creature is destroyed) or after using calamity. You will have 5 biolith fields and therefore do 5 damage to all fields on the board and this does not end your turn.
You can still make a heavy biolith deck work, but I would go for stall creatures like swordsmen, Tree Foxes (159), Flame Novice (111) or Partmole Gatekeeper (211), etc (basically 1 mana creatures that let you bank mana and do heavy damage). I would also include ways to avoid library defeat (soul hunters, Biolith Temple (185) or cards that remove cards from your opponents library). You will want to do lots of damage, use mana wisely, and prepare for a long game where you are more concerned with destroying your opponents ability to claim 5 fields than you are with your ability to claim 5 fields.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 19/01/2010 23:53:15
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thanks for the advice guys, ill implement them very soon, i need a blinding skys!!
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I could never get a biolith deck to work after set 1, but i'm not a good player.
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its doing better now with a re shuffle, but i still need a blinding skys, i may have too much big stuff in it as i am using phaeseus/watchtower.scion and ourboros dragon, but last game whent well, after using the god, he got sacrificed and put the dragon out, with a bomber and a sentry on the board after a tree fox and a initiate i took the win,
i use 2 bombers, 2 guard, 1 sentry, asc,
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isnt Juno's Admonition (310) (310), better than calamity because of the cost? and does the same?
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Juno's Admonition (310) costs 3 mana (2 in PSP-EOJ) and is cheaper than Seer Vizak's Calamity (109) which costs 5 (6 in PSP-EOJ). However, JA requires a biolith creature on the board for you to flip the biolith fields and the other fields aren't flipped so you don't get any fieldquake damage to creatures like you would using SVC. However, JA can be nice as I sometimes play a LD discard deck, containing 3 Elven Rider (64) so once I have played Blinding Skies (107) I look to play one of my other JAs on a wood creature to create 3 wood fields. The board now has serious discard potential. I am sure there are some really nice things you can do with JA.
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 20/01/2010 14:59:33
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yea see your point for it, it most likely will work better in the biolith deck rather than admonition, for the extra cost
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I had real fun playing Biolith in set 1...then I just found it weaker....but mixing it with CoP can be a deadly combo...but long games happened to bored me sometimes so i left it aside...now u had give a reason to return to them
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 20/01/2010 18:44:50
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well thats good, its not going to bad, obviously when i get my blinding skys itl be better, but a couple of thinks seem to be working well, i.e the deathspeaker, with return, that extra 2 hp realy helps, im a bit of a fan of the big good looking stuff, so its a bit expensive and hard to work sometimes, but i love the cards and its not for tournys.
got a couple of offers of play so far so guys, il take you up on that soon..
im still trying to get watchtower out with scion for that mana boost, and a Healing Shower (97) to keep him around longer
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![[Post New]](/forum/templates/default/images/icon_minipost_new.gif) 20/01/2010 19:39:33
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This is the scion/tower deck I have had the most success with...
http://www.eojmanager.com/forum/posts/list/4898.page
It is not all that biolith heavy (6 or so liths) but the watchtower/scion combo comes out a lot with this deck. The firewitch helps with returning scion/tower or wormak which is awesome fun
My heaviest biolith deck does not use tower or scion. It uses Scion Triumphant (289) as the noble. It plays slow and can go to libary defeat battle like an attrition deck. I made it just to play around with Scion Triumphant (289).
http://www.eojmanager.com/forum/posts/list/5909.page
These decks might help give you ideas for your own biolith deck.
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thanks drizzle, i may just pinch some of those ideas
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